now because at Boysville of Michigan .. i was Housed, in More Hall, named in honor of this guy..
As Jesus said.. people like thomas more .. will killll you and think they are doing God YAWAH a good thing, or Jesus a good thing.....
Ferdian and Isisabella off Spain.. were another group that murdered people in the "name of the Gospel of jesus the Christ"..
When Isabella married Ferdinand of Portugal in October 1469 without Henry's approval, Henry withdrew his recognition and again named Juana as his heir. At Henry's death in 1474, a war of succession ensued, with Alfonso V of Portugal, prospective husband of Isabella's rival Juana, supporting Juana's claims. The war was settled in 1479, with Isabella recognized as Queen of Castile. Juana retired to a convent rather than marry the son of Ferdinand and Isabella, Juan. She died in 1530.
Ferdinand had by this time become King of Aragon, and the two ruled with equal authority in both realms, thus unifying Spain. Among their first acts were various reforms to reduce the power of the nobility and increase the power of the crown.
In 1480, Isabella and Ferdinand instituted the Inquisition in Spain, as one of many changes to the role of the church instituted by the monarchs.
The Inquisition was aimed mostly at Jews and Muslims who had overtly converted to Christianity but were thought to be practicing their faiths secretly -- known respectively as morranos and moriscos --
as well as at heretics who rejected Roman Catholic orthodoxy, including alumbras who practiced a kind of mysticism or spiritualism.
Ferdinand and Isabella were given the title "the Catholic" by the Pope, in recognition of their role in "purifying" the faith. Among her other religious interests, Isabella also took a special interest in the order of nuns, the Poor Clares.
Isabella and Ferdinand proceeded with their plans to unify all of Spain by continuing a long-standing but stalled effort to expel the Moors (Muslims) who held parts of Spain. In 1492, the Muslim Kingdom of Granada fell to Isabella and Ferdinand, thus completing the Reconquista.
That same year, all Jews in Spain who refused to convert to Christianity were expelled by royal edict.
in conjunction with the Roman Catholic church in Rome..
Now they have to do this because... they .. are led by a different Spirit
NOT the HOly Spirit..
All thou the reason the roman Catholic Church.. likes to murder people and burn them at the stake.. is based in the old testement..
dut 18..
Deuteronomy 18:10
Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,
Deuteronomy 18:9-11 (in Context) Deuteronomy 18 (Whole Chapter)
1 Samuel 28:1
[ Saul and the Witch of Endor ] In those days the Philistines gathered their forces to fight against Israel. Achish said to David, "You must understand that you and your men will accompany me in the army."
1 Samuel 28:1-3 (in Context) 1 Samuel 28 (Whole Chapter)
2 Kings 9:22
When Joram saw Jehu he asked, "Have you come in peace, Jehu?" "How can there be peace," Jehu replied, "as long as all the idolatry and witchcraft of your mother Jezebel abound?"
2 Kings 9:21-23 (in Context) 2 Kings 9 (Whole Chapter)
2 Chronicles 33:6
He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger.
2 Chronicles 33:5-7 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 33 (Whole Chapter)
Micah 5:12
I will destroy your witchcraft and you will no longer cast spells.
Micah 5:11-13 (in Context) Micah 5 (Whole Chapter)
Nahum 3:4
all because of the wanton lust of a harlot, alluring, the mistress of sorceries, who enslaved nations by her prostitution and peoples by her witchcraft.
Nahum 3:3-5 (in Context) Nahum 3 (Whole Chapter)
Galatians 5:20
idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
Galatians 5:19-21 (in Context) Galatians 5 (Whole Chapter)
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From: "pp smith"
To: iknowitall@usa.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:17:07 -0500
Subject: tendale vs thomas more
Sir Thomas More's Controversy with Tyndale ...
Thomas More's controversy with William Tyndale
Tyndale's New Testament translation, while more accurate than Luther's, adopted Luther's order for the books and some of Luther's notes,.
Because of this, Tyndale's work was connected to Lutheranism, which was held by English church authorities of the time to be the work of the devil. Copies began to reach England in March of 1526. In October, the Bishop of London collected as many copies as he could and publicly burned them. He even arranged to buy copies abroad, which he also burned, but the money went to Tyndale, who used it for the production of more copies.
Tyndale also took part in the ongoing theological debates, publishing several short tracts, which helped bring his work to the attention of Catholic clergy and scholars.
In 1528, the Bishop of London wrote to Sir Thomas More,
requesting that he examine the works of certain "sons of iniquity" and explain "the crafty malignity of these impious heretics" to "simpleminded people."
He sent More examples of the Lutheran writers and gave him permission to read such books in order to lead an attack against them.
Tyndale was not mentioned in the letter, but his New Testament must have been among the books sent to More.
Other tracts by Tyndale, published while More was working on his book, seem to have convinced him that Tyndale was the greatest danger among the Lutheran writers.
In 1529, Sir Thomas More launched an attack against the reformists,
especially Luther and Tyndale, in a volume called
A Dialogue Concerning Heresies.
More's charges against Tyndale were broad.
While he took issue with specific words in Tyndale's translation ("congregation" instead of "church," "senior" instead of "priest,
" "repentance" instead of "penance," "love" instead of charity," for examples),
he was more concerned with condemning Tyndale as a fraud,
a hypocrite, a devil, a man "puffed up with pride and envy."
In 1530 More also took an active part in a church council that condemned Tyndale's works.
Tyndale answered More in July of 1531 in An Answer to Sir Thomas More's Dialogue.
In it Tyndale confirms More's worst fears by appealing to the scriptures as the ultimate authority to evaluate not only church doctrine but also church practice and by explicitly attacking the church hierarchy.
He also accused More of having traded his earlier humanist convictions for wealth and power.
More replied a year later in a long work,
The Confutation of Tyndale,
in which he repeats and intensifies his attacks, advocates the burning of Tyndale's books, and prophesies that Tyndale will burn in hell for his sins.
He also supported the burning of heretics such as Tyndale:
"and for heretics, as they be, the clergy doth denounce them;
and, as they be well worthy, the temporality doth burn them; and after the fire of Smithfield hell doth receive them, where the wretches burn forever."
Many Lutheran scholars fled to the continent to avoid the persecution More described.
Tyndale, along with many Protestant-leaning scholars, resided in Antwerp, a free city, but surrounded by territory under control of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor and a relative of Catherine of Aragon.
Early in 1535. Tyndale became friends with Henry Phillips, a visiting Englishman. Phillips presented himself to Tyndale as sympathetic to the Lutheran cause, but plotted with the emperor's magistrates to arrest Tyndale.
In May, 1535, Phillips invited Tyndale out to dinner and, upon leaving his residence, identified him to waiting guards who apprehended him.
Although by this time, England had separated from the Catholic Church and Tyndale had some supporters in the government, the Church of England continued to fight against Lutheranism.
Tyndale's friends appealed to the English government to intervene, but to no avail. After a sixteen month imprisonment, an ecclesiastical panel convicted Tyndale of heresy in August, 1536 and turned him over to the secular authority.
In October of the same year he was executed, being first strangled and then burned at the stake.
(almost like St. Joan of Arc)
"I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds.
But the word of God was not bound.
Herefore I endure all things, for the elect's sake, that they might also obtain that salvation which is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory."
2 Timothy 2:9&10- Tyndale Translation (1534)
Comfort to Persecuted Bible Readers . . .
Excerpts from William Tyndale's Introduction to
The Obedience of a Christian Man - 2nd October 1528
Let it not make thee despair, neither yet discourage thee, O reader, that it is forbidden thee in pain of life and goods, or that it is made breaking of the king’s peace, or treason unto his highness, to read the Word of thy soul’s health; … for if God be on our side, what matter maketh it who be against us, be they bishops, cardinals, popes …
Five Objections: Answered
1. They tell you that Scripture ought not to be in the mother tongue, but that is only because they fear the light, and desire to lead you blindfold and in captivity…
2. They say that Scripture needs a pure and quiet mind, and that laymen are too cumbered with worldly business to understand it. This weapon strikes themselves: for who is so tangled with worldly matters as the prelates?
3. They say that laymen would interpret it each after his own way. Why then do the curates not teach the people the right way? The Scripture would be a basis for such teaching and a test of it. At present their lives and their teaching are so contrary that the people do not believe them, even when they preach truth…
4. They say our tongue is too rude.
It is not so. Greek and Hebrew go more easily into English than into Latin.
Has not God made the English tongue as well as others?
They suffer you to read in English of Robin Hood, Bevis of Hampton, Hercules, Troilus, and a thousand ribald or filthy tales. It is only the Scripture that is forbidden.
It is therefore clearer than the sun that this forbiddal is not “for love of your souls, which they care for as the fox doth for the geese.”
5. They say we need doctors to interpret Scripture [because] it is so hard…
There are errors even in Origen and Augustine; how can we test them save by the Scripture?…
We do not wish to abolish teaching and to make every man his own master,
but if the curates will not teach the gospel,
the layman must have the Scripture, and read it for himself, taking God for his teacher.
Visit our William Tyndale Galleries:
Gallery 1: A Brief Introduction
Gallery 2: The "Crimes" of William Tyndale
Gallery 3: Tyndale's Importance as a Translator
Gallery 4: Prison Letter and Portrait
Gallery 5: Characters in Tyndale's Life
An Account of Tyndale's Life by John Foxe
Death of the Great Reformer of England by d’Aubigne
Sir Thomas More's Controversy with Tyndale
Tyndale's Pathway to Scriptures
Tyndale's A Brief Declaration of the Sacraments
Tyndale's Prologue to the Epistle to the Romans
A Timeline: William Tyndale & the Reformation
Why Were Our Reformers Burned?
History of the English Bible
Transmission of the Bible
it is "FUNNY" that thomas more was murdered by king henery.. because the king wanted a "DIvorce" and needed his marrage "Anuled"
(just like Maureen Barledge and alvin Glomoowski) and the Roman Catholic church.. whoul not do that..
(Just like maureen barledge and Alvin Glombowski)
Now the king ... just had thomas more killed.. and got married any way..
and Alvin Glombowski.. just IGNORED his leadership.. and got married any way!!
and Looke what Alvin Glombowski got..
He got a woman who is deceiteful, a back stabbing slander, a swindler and a thief..!
Geeeee wizzzz ... maybe he should have followed his leadership on this...
Naaa...
Alvin Glombowski.. interperts the Bible in what ever way he wants..
no big deal
a roman Catholic priest.. will PERVERT the scripture.. and .. alll you.. have to do is ..
say... 5 Hail maries... and 6 "Our Fathers"
and you are forgiven...
there is no"REPENTENCE"
JUST AN EMPTY .. RIT- U--AL
ritual may be performed on specific occasions, or at the discretion of individuals or communities.
It may be performed by a single individual, by a group, or by the entire community; in arbitrary places, or in places especially reserved for it; either in public, in private, or before specific people. A ritual may be restricted to a certain subset of the community, and may enable or underscore the passage between religious or social states.
The purposes of rituals are varied;
they include compliance with religious obligations or ideals, satisfaction of spiritual or emotional needs of the practitioners, strengthening of social bonds, demonstration of respect or submission, stating one's affiliation, obtaining social acceptance or approval for some event — or, sometimes, just for the pleasure of the ritual itself.
tOOOO TO.... tooo Toooo.. bad that most roman catholics have been.. taught garbage...
and garbage in---- garbage out....
JESUS'S ......OPINION... IS DIFFERENT ... THAN MOST ROMAN CATHOLICS
14Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
15He said to them,
1. "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation.
2.16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3.17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons;
4. they will speak in new tongues;
5 18they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all;
6. they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."
19After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.
20Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
THE rOMAN cATHOLICS.. MAJOR ON THE MINOR STUFF??
gEEE... IS THE eUCHARIST rEALLLY !!!! THE FLESH AND BLOOD OF
JESUS THE CHRIST????
yES IT IS... THE "SPIRITUAL BODY AND BLOOD"
AND I HAVE A BRIDGE.. TO SELLL TO YOU ALSO...
IT IS A GOOOD DEAL... ASK MAUREEN BARLEDGE...
SHE IS A GOOOOOD ... BUSINESS WOMAN..!!!!!
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Patrick Miron
I wrote this today in response to a frequent position that the RCC may have been founded by Christ, but along the way lost its mission and Gods peotection.
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