Thursday, November 12, 2009

Use full..IDOIT.. or pervert

TaLk to the Wall... it willll

listen better than ...U..... or ???

as the liars and thieves i worked with said... "You are supposted to tell "everyone.. what ever they want to hear..!! and it dosen't matter if it is true or not !







this may seem to be a personal.. slam.. but it is really a "Label" to describe your .. apperent useful position..for alvin G.and maureen the situational whore..

and as you may not have guessed.. i relate better to "Former Roman Catholics"



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yes.. patrick.. has.. a better understanding..of the "CONTENT" of what is in the bible scripture.. than Alvin Glombowski

but .. context.. is always .. different .. for each religious group.. that lack the direct connection to the Holy Ghost..


Roman Catholics.. are not viewed.. as Spirit Filled.. or "Saved" .. by other christian groups...



NOR is "Transsubstation viewed as "factual" to other christian groups


example:

Refuted: The false doctrine of Catholic "transubstantiation" and Orthodox "Real Presence"


The Lord's Supper: Transubstantiation, Real Presence
Refuted: The Catholic false doctrine of "transubstantiation".
Transubstantiation is a close cousin to Gnostic theology because both false doctrines claim that "things are not what they appear".

The Bible Blueprint of the Lord's Supper (the Bible pattern)


Introduction:

The Catholic and Greek Orthodox false doctrine of "transubstantiation" teaches that the bread and juice undergo a change to become the literal body and blood of Christ.

A. Transubstantiation is a false doctrine for the following reasons:

No Bible verse teaches transubstantiation.

Supposed proof texts put forward by Roman Catholic and Orthodox advocates are most naturally seen as proving that the bread and juice were symbols of the body and blood. To see transubstantiation in these texts requires one to strain the text as much as our mind.


Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus is not a liar: In Mt 26:29 after Jesus had said,

"this is my blood" and prayed, he still referred to the contents as,

"fruit of the vine".

If transubstantiation of the juice into blood had occurred, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches say it was at this time, then Jesus would never have referred to it as "fruit of the vine' but rather "blood".

This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" he LITERALLY gave them bread and juice.


In like manner, Paul also refers to the elements of the Lord's Supper as "eat this bread and drink the cup" in 1 Cor 11:26 after they should be transubstantiated. 1 Cor 11:26-27 proves transubstantiation wrong because Paul calls the loaf, "bread" after both Roman Catholics and Orthodox say the "change" was supposed to take place. Catholics make Paul a liar by calling the loaf "bread" rather than what Catholic false doctrine claims it was: Literal Flesh.


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1 Cor 11:26-28, Paul instructs us to "drink the cup" instead of "drink the blood". The Holy Spirit would not use such a figure of speech as "synecdoche" (referring to a part for the whole) if such a literal transubstantiation was actually taking place.

To use a symbol when such a literal change is taking place is unthinkable.
Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus instituted Lord’s Supper before his blood was shed and body broken! He spoke of His blood being shed, which was still yet future. This proves it was a symbol.





hello pat...trick ---the --pervert... and USefull Idoit !!

Gee wis.. you certanily have demenstrated .. that you can pervert the meaning and intention of any thing .. some-- one may say to you/.. i guess lucer.. the deceiver must be your close friend...

just like Alvin Glombowski... .. and alvin Glombowski .. asked you to be "a useful idoit 4 HIM.". and by golly.. you accepted that chalenge!!

Well it surprised me when i found that maureen (the goldigger and slander) Barledge.. attacking my character.. and "Accusing me of activities that were "UNtrue"

when i corrected her and Alvin.. his response was "it isn"t??" DUh ??

No Alvin {dumb as they come} Glombowski...

so i asked him.. what was the "pennance" that your priest told you to do .. when you slandered my character.. and sullied my good name ??

he answered ..Duh/?? it is none of your business....!!..


11 " 'Do not steal.
" 'Do not lie.
" 'Do not deceive one another.



15 " 'Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.

16 " 'Do not go about spreading slander among your people.
" 'Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am the LORD.



i told him not accoring to the bible.. and the old testment.. what YAWAH.. says... is different than you or your roman catholic priest .. believe..


When Alvin Glombowski and Maureen {the swindler and thief} barledge.. robbed me of my Gold and silver... i asked ... what did the roman catholic priest tell you to do?? DUh??

Welll... PAT...TRICK... THE USEFUL IDOIT... ... what is your verson of what the bible says to do???

because YAWAH/... says to return it.. X4... or X7... gee that is the pennence...?? alvin dosen't like that...

so i guess.. at todays value... my Gold and Silver .. is worth either... 24,000 dollars... or 42,000 thousand dollars...


so partrick... being Alvins ... useful idoit... why don't you... pick up his tab???


and by the way... will you also send me the name and phone number of the Roman Catholic priest.. you go to confession too??

because you feel jstified to attack my relationship with YAWAH .. and or with the HOly Spirit...


and my character..

I have turned promotions and advancements in business.. because the Holy Ghost directed me to.. and i have left 4 different employment jobs.. when they told me that my employment included .. be a situational liar and deceiver..

sorry i told them... i don't lie cheat and defraud.. anyone on your command..

Gosh... thay said i "had an attitude problem" and musch worse ..

but i kept a journal.. on their activities... incase i needed to sue them for fraud.. and character defermation..


HUH ??? you might say...

because Alvin Glombowski is and has been dishonest and a "tail barrer" and slander 2 me.. i don't believe any thing he has to say.. Maureen barledge.. is also a liar and slander and thief.. so they are iff fact untrust-worthly..


Witnesses
15 One witness is not enough to convict a man accused of any crime or offense he may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
16 If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse a man of a crime, 17 the two men involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the LORD before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time. 18 The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to be a liar, giving false testimony against his brother, 19 then do to him as he intended to do to his brother. You must purge the evil from among you.



but did i "forgive them 4 lying , stealing and slandering me ..

well yes of course..


Duh!!!


17 " 'Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt.
18 " 'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

19 " 'Keep my decrees.






so don't start quoting scripture.. to me.. pat..trick the old man..


( i did actually watch a lying spirit enter into him in to alvin in 1984)

Now because you are unable to identify.. their "self deceite" and Self rightious behavior..

it is obvious that you lack the same Holy spirit .. that i ... relate too.



Gee... not a surprise???


Yes as i said... i have been able to evualate 5 generations of my family.. to recognize that they have been taught wrong by the Roman Catholc church..

but if a man does any research over the last 1700 hundred years...

it is easy to see the Roman catholic church has tried to supppress the truth of the scripture..




God's Wrath Against Mankind
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,

the roman catholic church murdered tendale wiclief.. and many others...

to control .. the masses...of people



John Wycliffe (pronounced /ˈwɪklɪf/; also spelled Wyclif, Wycliff, Wiclef, Wicliffe, or Wickliffe) (mid-1320s – 31 December 1384) was an English theologian, lay preacher,[1] translator, reformist and university teacher who was known as early dissident in the Roman Catholic Church during the 14th century. His followers are known as Lollards, an Evangelical movement which preached a New Testament Gospel.[1] He is considered the founder of the Lollard movement,[1] a precursor to the Protestant Reformation (for this reason, he is sometimes called "The Morning Star of the Reformation"). He was one of the earliest opponents of papal authority influencing secular power.[2]




English biblical translator, humanist, and Protestant martyr.


Tyndale was educated at the University of Oxford and became an instructor at the University of Cambridge, where, in 1521, he fell in with a group of humanist scholars meeting at the White Horse Inn. Tyndale became convinced that the Bible alone should determine the practices and doctrines of the church and that every believer should be able to read the Bible in his own language.

After church authorities in England prevented him from translating the Bible there, he went to Germany in 1524, receiving financial support from wealthy London merchants. His New Testament translation was completed in July 1525 and printed at Cologne and, when Catholic authorities suppressed it, at Worms. The first copies reached England in 1526. Tyndale then began work on an Old Testament translation but was captured in Antwerp before it was completed; he was executed at Vilvoorde in 1536.

At the time of his death, several thousand copies of his New Testament had been printed; however, only one intact copy remains today at London’s British Library. The first vernacular English text of any part of the Bible to be so published, Tyndale’s version became the basis for most subsequent English translations, beginning with the King James Version of 1611.





19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.


20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.


thanks for your demenstration .. of why the roman catholic church.. is so full of perverts and child molesters..


i have stories about the 5 or 6 churches.. i attended in Detroit before moving to arizona...



oh.. Yawah.. the Holy Ghost... told me to move to Arizona..

when i was in cleveland tennesea... he said to buya ranch.. here..

which i did 3 or 4 years later.. when he sent me to Detroit.. to complete a project there..

Gee... it's lamost like .. going to "daily mass"

but... more complex... and doing what he tells you.. may cost money!!


Ya there are alot better Christian religions... than the perverts that are in the Roman Catholic Family..


and they wiilll treat you better than a Roman Catholic.....


ask a Roman Catholic 4 help.. and they will have a mass ssaid 4 u..

or pray to mary the familar spirit.. on your behalf

that's about it!!




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