Friday, February 27, 2009

roman catholic interperation is wrong.. YAHWAH is right













heool P..

alvin glombowski was telling me how .. in 1966 when he was working at boysville of michigan in clinton .. that he and the other brother's of holy cross referred to Horton the director at that time.. was backstabbed as "HORTON THE HYCROPRITE"

the interesting thing.. is that allvin glombowski .. and the other former brothers of Holy Cross .. are still.. a bunch a cowards and back stabbing .. Roman Catholic HYcropites..
Huh "? U .. may say .. well my direct experience is that at boysville of michigan .. they protected the homosexuals.. and it was hush hush..

and when alvin glombowski libled and slandered former students,, when he was asked to supply exidence as required in the bible by MOSES and YAHweh..

Witnesses
15 One witness is not enough to convict a man accused of any crime or offense he may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
16 If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse a man of a crime, 17 the two men involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the LORD before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time. 18 The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to be a liar, giving false testimony against his brother, 19 then do to him as he intended to do to his brother. You must purge the evil from among you. 20 The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you. 21 Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.



15One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

16If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;

17Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;

18And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;

19Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

20And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.

21And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.





...What is the GOD ... YAHAH'S OPINION.. ?? ... Oh wait ..

YAWAH does not have an "OPINION" his is a LAW for belivers.. and deciples..



But alvin Golmbowski .. like every BROTHER of HOLY Cross.. has their own law .. that they follow..

when i asked them who they worshiped .. their answer was ... Welll the "father, the son and the holy ghost"..

and WHO is that GOD that "AGREES " YOUR YOUR version of the bible.."

Alvin Glombowski also taught me that it is ok .. assinnate the character of some one .. so long he he"ALVIN GLOMBOWSKI" agrees with the lie..

He especially taught this to Maureen Barledge.the "gold-digger" he married... he brother FRANK barledge.. was a gay cock-sucker.." which was ok in the roman catholic religion so long as U hid it.. he was also a liar and a thief.. but that's 4 a nother story..

but roman catholics hid that and child molesters and others .. i uncovered lots of rocks.. and watched them crawl out.. when i was a child.. and i can't say it got any better at boysville of michigan when i was living at thomas more high school..

it was disappointing . to find no Christians there either.. but BROTHER HORMAN did do a fine job of securing money for the expansion..of the the organization



So not only does the brother's of holy cross teach that it is ok to lible and slander some one .. and not follow the law in the scripture.. but base it on your own opinion.. and not recognize that this is a SIN!!

BUT THIS SIN FOLLOWS.. with the next sin in lev..19:11

11 " 'Do not steal.
" 'Do not lie.
" 'Do not deceive one another.

12 " 'Do not swear falsely by my name and so profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.

13 " 'Do not defraud your neighbor or rob him.



15 " 'Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.

16 " 'Do not go about spreading slander among your people.
" 'Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am the LORD.

Alvin Glombowski also taught that it is ok to rob and steal from people.. when i asked him about it .. he of course got mad!!



the scripture is clear about it..

Proverbs 6
Warnings Against Folly


16 There are six things the LORD hates,
seven that are detestable to him:

17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,

18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,

19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

30 Men do not despise a thief if he steals
to satisfy his hunger when he is starving.

31 Yet if he is caught, he must pay sevenfold,
though it costs him all the wealth of his house.



When Alvin got confrounted for stealing 2,000 dollars now worth 6,000 dollars of a "friends" gold and silver he denied any wrongdoing.. because all the roman catholic priests he knows is perverted.. and currupt... Gee what a surprise..

so Alvin glombowski .. owes that person 6X7 = 42,000

gee do u think he can figure it out??

probably not he is catholic... taught lies believes lies.. and will teach another generation lies... (hos... 4:6)

Deuteronomy 6


Love the LORD Your God

1 These are the commands, decrees and laws the LORD your God directed me to teach you to observe in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess,

2 so that you, your children and their children after them may fear the LORD your God as long as you live by keeping all his decrees and commands that I give you, and so that you may enjoy long life.

3 Hear, O Israel, and be careful to obey so that it may go well with you and that you may increase greatly in a land flowing with milk and honey, just as the LORD, the God of your fathers, promised you.

4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. [a]

5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

6 These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts.

7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up.

8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

further ...more ...


19 "You shall not steal.
20 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

21 "You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.

You shall not set your desire on your neighbor's house or land, his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

22 These are the commandments the LORD proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.

now according the the 'BROTHERS OF HOLY CROSS"

all u got to do is lie to a pervert priest.. and he will give u absolution..

Gee do U think that counts for much with YAHWAH ?

see what Jesus says in matth 18.. figure it out..

i wondering what u know about Mithras








Mithras
Persian god of Zoroastrian origin



hello i was wondering what u know about Mithras .. he was a person who the Jews say full filled scripture and was born in the same way as Jesus.

please comment

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If Mithras can't give you the holy Ghost baptism, or tell you how to get it, he is worthless.

The baptism of the holy Ghost is how we are put into the body of Christ

(1 Cor.12;13, Gal. 3:27),

and without that, any man,

no matter how spiritual he sounds,

is just another "thief and robber".
Gary
www.isaiah58.com

iwrote about the panoply of symbolism you see in Manhattan in "Pantheopolis," but the holiday season got me thinking about Mithras, the original reason for the season.

I was considering Mithras today since WorldNetDaily linked to a story on the movement among Fundamentalists against Christmas.

By Mark McFall

This investigation of Mithraism will mainly focus on the critics assertion that Christianity borrowed the resurrection myth from Mithra. The reason that we will be zooming in on the resurrection and not similarities in sacraments is because the very heart of the Gospel rests in the resurrection narrative. If the resurrection was borrowed from pagan influences and did not historically happen, then as Paul says: "...if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain" (1 Corn. 15:14).

Assertions made by critics for a Mithra-Jesus connection abound in literature critical of Christianity. One such example can be found in the works of contemporary Muslim scholar Yousuf Saleem Chishti in his book "What is Christianity". Chishti writes:

"The Christian doctrine of atonement was greatly coloured by the influence of the mystery religions, especially Mithraism, which had its own son of God and virgin Mother, and crucifixion and resurrection after expiating for the sins of mankind and finally his ascension to the 7th heaven....If you study the teachings of Mithraism side by side with that of Christianity, you are sure to be amazed at the close affinity which is visible between them, so much so that many critics are constrained to conclude that Christianity is the facsimile or the second edition of Mithraism."1

Another leading proponent of that view is Acharya S in her critical book The Christ Conspiracy, she states that Mithra "was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again". 2 These alleged direct connections with Jesus must be backed with evidence - and as Christians we must demand such evidence.



Where Is That Evidence?

This subject basically comes down to who is more informed in Mithriac origins, and my intentions are to equip you with adequate critical information. What some critics seem to be unaware of is that attempts to reconstruct the beliefs and practices of Mithraism face enormous challenges because of the lack of information that has survived. In fact, we posses no existing texts of their belief system that come from the Mithraic devotees themselves (one is left wondering what sources Chishti knows about that the rest of Mithraic scholars are unaware of). The only references that we have concerning the beliefs of Mithraism are found in early Church fathers (for the reason of defending Christ’s uniqueness) and Platonic philosophers who used Mithraic symbolism for their own philosophical ideas.3



Archaeology And Timing

According to scholars, our late literary sources are extremely sparse concerning Mithriasm. However, there is an abundance of material evidence (i.e. artifacts) for the existence of Mithraism that has been found in underground temples (i.e. imitation caves) referred to as mithraeums.

Attempts concerning dating methods have been made in the past in an endeavor to place at least one of these mithraeum in the first century era. Professor Ronald Nash the author of The Gospel And The Greeks, captures one of these moments by the Swedish scholar George Widengren. He claimed that an excavation at Dura (Europos) is a mithraeum dated to A.D. 80-85 which points to the possible presence of a Mithraic cult before the end of the first century A.D..4 Critics who cite Widengren dating system should do well to know that Widengren himself has admitted that "the evidence is very uncertain."5 According to other scholars, including the noted mithriac scholar M.J. Vermaseren, the Dura Mithraeum that Widengren dated so early should be dated much later, in A.D. 168.6

Archaeologist have found in these subterranean mithraeums artifacts of carved reliefs, statues, and paintings, depicting a variety of enigmatic figures and scenes.7 These images are our only primary source of knowledge about Mithraic beliefs8 (there are no written accounts to aid us in interpreting these images). Mithraic scholars identify the particular depiction of Mithras in the act of killing a bull as the central icon of Mithraism known as the tauroctony or "bull-slaying scene." In this scene Mithras is accompanied by a dog, a snake, a raven, and a scorpion.9

According Nash, none of these representative "monuments for the cult can be dated earlier than A.D. 90-100."10 Nash identifies this as "one of the major reasons why no Mithraic influence on first-century Christianity is possible."11 Indeed, the bulk of out-side references for Roman Mithraism date between the 2nd-5th centuries.12These late literary out-side sources are the only means in which scholars (or critics) attempt to form reconstruction’s of what they think (uncritically) were the beliefs of earlier pioneers for the mystery cult. This type of reasoning is particularly bad scholarship and should not be left without challenge.



The Plutarch reference of Mithra

Prior To The New Testament

The response from critics to the lack of archaeology finds prior to 90 A.D., is to cite the historian Plutarch (aprox. 34-125 A.D.) who made reference to Mithras in the pre-Christian era. Plutarch writes:

"They themselves [the Cilician pirates] offered strange sacrifices upon Mount Olympus, and performed certain secret rites or religious mysteries, among which those of Mithras have been preserved to our own time having received their previous institution from them." (Plutarch, Lives13)

According to the critical view, "Plutarch reports that Mithraism was introduce to the soldiers of Pompey the Great by Cilician pirates. Although it didn't flourish until later, it may well have been introduced in some form in the first century B.C.E."14,15 They charge that there were "worshippers of Mithras in Rome in Pompey's time (67 BC)."16

In response to this, professor Nash comments that:

"...any conclusion along this line can be, at best, only an inference from Plutarch’s text, which itself makes no such claim. All Plutarch states explicitly is that some of the pirates practiced Mithraic mysteries and that some of them in all likely hood were taken to Rome as trophies of Pompey’s victory. But Plutarch himself does not state that Mithraism was established in Italy in or before 67 B.C.17

However, if the critics are right in their interpretation of Plutarch, it is only by speculations and assumptions that lead them (the critics) to assume that the alleged resurrection of Mithra was in practices as an ideology in its very earliest development in Rome. Even at its peek of popularity in the 2nd-4th centuries we are still left with no primary evidence to indicate a resurrection of Mithra.

It is also worth noting that Mithriac scholars of the First International Congress of Mithraic Studies acknowledge that there exists today an ideology problem in tracing Mithraic belief. One scholar lamented that:

"At present our knowledge of both general and local cult practice in respect of rites of passage, ceremonial feats and even underlying ideology is based more on conjecture than on fact."18

Moreover, the Greco-Roman scholar Richard Gordon advises us that there is "no death of Mithras." 19So if there is no death of Mithras, how are we able to identify that there was any type of resurrection at all?

The lack of any artifacts dated prior to 90 A.D. seems to imply that Plutarch’s reference to the Mithras religion was in all probability to a very small and secretive society (if indeed the critics are right in interpreting Plutarch’s reference). The Oxford Companion to Classical Civilization estimates that at its height in popularity [2nd - 5th centuries], it never encompassed more than 2% of the population.20 It is at this point, that when we look back and try to speculate what percentage of the population was influenced by a more primitive prototype of Mithriasm, that we begin to see the improbability of such an influence on the writers of the New Testament. Mithraism was basically a military cult which excluded women. Therefore, one must be skeptical about suggestions that it appealed to nonmilitary people like the early Christians.



Two Mithras

Most critics are unaware that there are two distinct forms of this pagan mystery religion under the same name - Mithra. They are Roman Mithraism, and Iranian Mithraism. Critics more times than not confuse the two forms in an attempt to trace Roman Mithraism as far back as they can. However, these two versions of Mithraism have no direct connection with each other. Critics respond to this by saying:

"...Mithraism arose in the region of what is now Iran and spread to Rome. Roman forms of worship may have been different than those in Persia/Iran, but to say that there's no direct connection is like saying that the Russian Orthodox Church has no direct connection to Pentecostal Christian sects in North America - both are forms of Christianity.21


These types of comments are very prevalent on the internet, but there isn’t the slightest shred of evidence to directly connect the two beliefs. In fact, they are totally independent of each other. Let me explain: As mentioned earlier, the tauroctony (bull-slaying scene) of Roman Mithraism was located in the most important place in every mithraeum (temple). Thus, if the god Mithras of the Roman religion was actually the Iranian god Mithra, we should expect to find in Iranian mythology a story in which Mithra kills a bull.22

But according to Mithraic scholar David Ulansey, "no such Iranian myth exists," he says of this that "in no known Iranain text does Mithra have anything to do with killing a bull."23 Yet in Roman Mithraic temples which number into the hundreds (400 to 50024), we find the tauroctony (bull-slaying scene) located in every mithraeum. Surely if Iranian Mithraism was connected to Roman Mithraism we would expect to find the tauroctony in Iranian Mithraism.25 Yet, we do not find it even in one single instance. In other words there are no direct parallels in ancient Iran to the iconography which is the primary fact of the Roman Mithraic cult.

The distinction between Roman and Iranain Mithraism was also recognized by the First International Congress of Mithraic Studies. They concluded that the Roman Mithraism was an altogether "new creation"26 and that Roman Mithraism was Mithraism in name only. Merely a new system that used the name of a known ancient Eastern deity to attract urbane Romans who found the east and all of its accouterments an enticing mystery.27

The evidence seems to be pointing in the direction that Roman Mithraism was not fully developed before the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., therefor it seems improbable that Christianity was influenced by Mithraism. From what we know, Iranian Mithraism was isolated to Iran having an association with the sun-god along with Apollos and Hermes28- minus the resurrection story. Roman Mithraism on the other hand had its association with the tauroctony (i.e. bull-slaying scene) in Rome, and it was later associated with a resurrection by literary writers that had no connection with the devotees themselves.

The allegations of Mithraian influence on Christianity have been rejected by scholars in biblical and classical studies.29 According to the British scholar Norman Anderson:

"the basic difference between Christianity and the mysteries is the historic basis of the one and the mythological character of the other...the deities of the mysteries were no more than a nebulous figure of an imaginary past, while the Christ whom the apostolic (kerygma) proclaimed had lived and died only a few years before the first New Testament documents were written. Even when the Apostle Paul wrote his first letter to the Corinthians the majority of some five hundred witnesses to the resurrection were still alive"(30) (1 Corn. 15:6).

In essence, what Paul was saying was: If you do not believe me, just go and ask them?" Certainly Mithraism could not - and did not - put their beliefs on the table as Paul did for all to examine at its most crucial point of development.

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Footnotes:

1) Citing Norman Geisler’s Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics pg. 490, and his quote from Y.S. Chishti, What is Christianity?, pg. 87.

2) Citing J.P. Holding’s article: Mighty Mithraic Madness ( http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_04_02_04_MMM.html ), and his quote from: Acharya S., The Christ Conspiracy, pg. 118-120.

3) Ronald Nash, article: Was the New Testament Influenced by Pagan Religions. Christian Research Journal, Winter 1994, pg. 8, or http://www.equip.org/free/DB109.htm

4) Nash, The Gospel And The Greeks, pg. 147.

5) Ibid, citing from footnote on pg. 293 which references George Widengren, The Mithraic Mysteries in the Greco-Roman World With Special Regard to Their Iranian Background, Academia Nazionale dei Lincei (1966), pg. 452.

6) Ibid, Nash citing M.J. Vermaseren, Corpus Inscriptionum et Monumentorum Religionis Mithriacae, (1956), p. 57.

7) David Ulansey, article: The Cosmic Mysteries of Mithras. ( http://www.well.com/user/davidu/mithras.html )

8) Ibid.

9) Ibid.

10) Ronald Nash, article: Was the New Testament Influenced by Pagan Religions. Christian Research Journal, Winter 1994, or http://www.equip.org/free/DB109.htm

11) Ibid.

12) According to Edwin Yamauchi, the exception to this late literary evidence would be found in one pre-Christian inscription located in the text of Antiochus I of Commagene (69-34 B.C.) in Eastern Asia Minor. Another possible text is dated to the first century A.D., from Cappadocia, and another from Phyrygia dated to A.D. 77-78, and one from Rome dated to Trajan’s reign (A.D. 98-117) (M.J. Vermasere, Corpus Inscriptionum et Monumentorum Religionis Mithriacae, 1956). ( http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/yama.html ).

13) Plutarch, Lives. The Dryden's translation.

14) Nancy Todd, Errancy list (1/1/01)

15) Ibid, Nancy comments that: "The Plutarch reference speaks of secret initiatory rites (teletai) of Mithras which had endured to his (Plutarch's) own day. It seems far more likely that this is a reference to the prototype of the Roman Mithras rather than a reference to the ancient Persian Mithra....It seems most likely that Roman Mithraism had its origin in Asia Minor, perhaps among Persian elements in the population. What form it had in the first century B.C.E. is not known, but it seems reasonable to assume that at least some of the elements of full-blown Roman Mithraism originated in the Mithraic rites introduced to the Romans by these Cilician pirates." (1/26/01).

16) Debra, Errancy list (1/26/01).

17) See Ronald Nash, The Gospel and the Greeks, pg. 148.

18) Cited from J.P. Holding’s article:Mighty Mithraic Madness and his reference from the Proceedings of the First International Congress of Mithraic Studies. Manchester U. Press, 1975, xiii. pg. 437. ( http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_04_02_04_MMM.html )

19) Ibid, J.P. Holding citation of Richard Gordon’s work the Image and Value in the Greco-Roman World. Aldershot: Variorum, IV, 96 (1996).

20) The Oxford Companion to Classical Civilization estimates that it never encompassed more than 2% of the
population, based upon the (extrapolated) number and size of Mithraea. (Source supplied by Nancy Todd on the Errancy list 1/24/01).

21) SarahRose Werner, e-mail correspondence on the Xtianity mailing list (1/05/01). After a response from myself and two other people on the list, Sarah admitted that she was incorrect. She writes: "My understanding was indeed outmoded - I was basing my statement on a theory that USED to be widely held. It's been some years since I revisited Mithraism, and I was[n’t] aware of more recent developments in the study of this religion. One of the pleasures of being on a list such as this one is the acquisition of new information" (1/06/01).

22) David Ulansey, article: The Cosmic Mysteries of Mithras. ( http://www.well.com/user/davidu/mithras.html )

23) Ulansey notes that some have responded to this problem by focusing on an ancient Iranian text in which a bull is indeed killed, but the bull-slayer is not Mithra in this text but rather Ahriman - the force of the cosmic evil in Iranian religion. Those who believe that Ahriman later transformed into the god Mithra - do so on hypothetical grounds. There is no evidence in any known source that would indicate this. (The Cosmic Mysteries of Mithras). ( http://www.well.com/user/davidu/mithras.html )

24) According to the article on "Mithras" in the Oxford Companion to Classical Civilization, "...over 400 find-spots are recorded, many of them excavated meeting places". Later in the same article, they extrapolate from the number of mithraea found in Rome and Ostia and speculate that there may have been as many as 700 mithraea throughout the empire.

25) David Ulansey argues convincingly in support of this position.

26) Citing from J.P. Holding’s use of the quote from the Proceedings of the First International Congress of Mithraic Studies. Manchester U. Press, 1975.

27) Ibid.

28) Ibid.

29) Ronald Nash, Christianity and the Hellenistic World, pg. 119.

30) Citing Norman Geisler’s Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics, pg. 492, In reference to his quote from Christianity and World Religions



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Thursday, February 19, 2009

Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin





Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin

A few weeks ago I finished a fascinating book by Malachi Martin titled “Hostage to the Devil: The Possession and Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans.” Now I don’t know how many thousands of books I’ve read over my lifetime, quite a few I’m sure, but I can’t seem to recall one as heavy and dark as this one was.

Martin, a (now deceased) former Catholic Priest, writes of five firsthand accounts of demon possession and subsequent exorcism. Martin thoroughly researched each case, interviewing those involved and studying the recordings and transcripts of the exorcism, to present an accurate portrayal of what demonic possession is like. As you can imagine, all of the possessed were involved in sinful lifestyles and Martin doesn’t pull any punches in his recap (Read that: Mature Audiences Only).

Having studied demonology in seminary as well as encountering demonic possession first hand on the mission field (CLICK HERE for that post) I must admit I was quite intrigued at what Martin had to say. Especially because this book is considered a classic in its field, and students of demonology (which I caution anyone against becoming) are bound to read it sooner or later.

Martin’s experiences fit superbly within his Catholic worldview. Items such as sprinkling the possessed with holy water and holding up a crucifix are presented as powerful weapons against demons. Martin teaches us which prayers are to be used to “provoke” the demon and then explains how exorcisms rarely last less than one and often times up to five days.

However when I think back to my experiences, or the experiences of others I know, or even compare it with the biblical accounts of exorcism, I feel like I’m missing something. In the Bible we see Jesus conducting multiple exorcisms. (See Luke 8:26-39, Luke 9:37-43, Matthew 15:21-28, etc.). Time and again he instructs the demons to depart and they do. Never do we see him using “holy objects” or taking several days, or using only special prayers. While not always instantaneous, my experiences and the experiences of those I respect, are that exorcisms usually last less than a few hours and sometimes just a few minutes. None of us used any holy objects or recited magical prayers. We simply gave the situation to the Lord and followed his examples.

So what’s my point? Well I guess what intrigued me most about this book is how do I reconcile my experiences with the demonic being one way with Martin’s experiences being different, while at the same time both experiences actually happened?

Does the enemy play into our worldview? Meaning if we expect them to respond a certain way, will they try to twist it to their advantage, even during exorcism?

Or does God allow the demons to linger on longer as a way to get the Priest’s attention and to show that only He can expel the demons and not the Priest?

I’m not sure how it works.

There are some really good aspects to this book. Martin’s emphasis on making sure you are right with God before even thinking about conducting an exorcism is great. (Even if you aren’t planning an exorcism this is important.) I also really appreciated how Martin traced back over the possessed person’s life and showed how personal choices, deemed insignificant by the person, would eventually snowball into demonic possession and by the time the possessed realized what was going on, it was too late. But there is a price to be paid by reading this book. It definitely wouldn’t win the feel good book of the year award.


Bottom Line:
If you are a student of demonology, have a solid understanding of correct theology and are not easily offended by graphic depictions and language, I recommend reading this book which you can purchase by CLICKING HERE.

However, if even one of those areas does not describe you, than this is definitely not the book for you.


Posted by Ryan at 3/08/2007

DECEPTION IS AN OPTION.. TO BELIEVE.. WHAT U WANT TO HEAR..2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)

2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,



2 Timothy 2:15 (New International Version)


15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.


2 Timothy 2:22 (New International Version)

22 Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.


Romans 12
Living Sacrifices

1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual[a] act of worship.

2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.


3For by the grace given me I say to every one of you:

Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you.

4 Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function,

5so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.

6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his[b]faith.

7 If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; 8if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership, let him govern diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully.

Wednesday, February 18, 2009

what is a roman catholic?








Why do we use the term "Roman Catholic" instead of "Catholic"?


We use the phrase "Roman Catholic" in place of "Catholic" to avoid confusion.

Most Christian faith groups acknowledge the Nicene Creed and thus regard themselves as "Catholic," at least as far as being part of the "catholic and apostolic church." Within any one given faith group, the meaning of the term "Catholic" is relatively clear.


Beliefs of non-Protestant groups:
This essay deals with the cardinal beliefs of Protestant groups. However, Protestants do not form the entirety of Christianity. Consider just two other groups:

It is perhaps ironic that if one considers the very earliest Christian movement -- the Jewish Christians in Jerusalem under the leadership of James the "brother" of Jesus and in the period immediately after Jesus' execution before the arrival of Paul -- they might not be considered Christian by today's standards.

That group apparently did not believe in the Trinity, the deity of Jesus, salvation by grace, or the virgin birth.

They expected that Jesus' second coming would occur sometime in the first century CE, not millennia later.


Roman Catholicism expects its members to believe in a much larger list of cardinal beliefs than is listed above. One example that is not shared by Protestants is the assumption of the Virgin Mary into Heaven at death. Pope Pius XII wrote in Munificentissimus Deus:

"... we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.


(ya right) and u know this ...because????

Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which we have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith." 13


ck out deu 13..


Worshiping Other Gods

1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder,

2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them,"

3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer.

The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul.









4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere.

Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.

5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery;

he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow.

You must purge the evil from among you.




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Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Gee what is idolity?... which (witch) standard do u follow..









Why do we flee from idolity,witchcraft and other forms of sin?

Our bodies as temples for one.So we do not suffer wrath and lack of peace.

Others please stae your experiences.

This question feels very wrong. It's hard for me to know what type of answer you're actually after.

I do not flee from idolity (which I think you meant Idolatry), I practice witchcraft all the time and I must state that neither of these are sins. For them to be categorized together is an insult to many people of different paths.

If you could please elaborate on what it is you are looking for I would be glad to return and give my answer to the best of my abilities.

Shadow Storm


I don't.

In my somewhat Christian moments, I remember that He said to not resist evil, but to name it and command it to get out of my way. Sometimes I have done this.

In the rest of my Pagan life, why would I run from myself? Sin is a Semitic concept, and not one that any of my Goddesses or Gods are party to.



don't believe Witchcraft is a sin, and whether someone is worshipping an idol is another person's opinion. To the person who believes in the Higher Power that the idol is symbolizing, it isn't a sin.


to tell you the truth i believe in karma. i has and does come back at you. when i started lowering my standards and morals my life was in constant caos and kept getting worse. if you want live on the dark side it will get darker. so straighten up!


I'm a practicing witch. I don't know anyone who "flees" from witchcraft.

Please explain.
Source(s):
Eclectic Pagan Witch





"Peter,..peter,..peter,..
If you Love Me"will you feed my sheep",..
I think you know who asked this question
I've answered your question earlier,..GAZA",...;)
I gave you wisdom young friend,...be wise
seek wisdom peter,....in all thy way's get an understanding,..
he who is without sin,.let him cast the first stone,...
all things are made perfect in love,...re post your question
use clarity with what you are asking,...ask,seek,.knock,..find,..peace

Monday, February 16, 2009

just another day... 40 years later

Ya after 40 years ..the training and teaching at boysville and the Holy Cross brothers is the same...


2 Timothy 3 (New American Standard Bible)

2 Timothy 3
"Difficult Times Will Come"
1But realize this, that (A)in the last days difficult times will come.
2For men will be (B)lovers of self, (C)lovers of money, (D)boastful, (E)arrogant, (F)revilers, (G)disobedient to parents, (H)ungrateful, (I)unholy,

3(J)unloving, irreconcilable, (K)malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, (L)haters of good,

4(M)treacherous, (N)reckless, (O)conceited, (P)lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,

5holding to a form of (Q)godliness, although they have (R)denied its power; (S)Avoid such men as these.

6For among them are those who (T)enter into households and captivate (U)weak women weighed down with sins, led on by (V)various impulses,

7always learning and never able to (W)come to the knowledge of the truth.

8Just as (X)Jannes and Jambres (Y)opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, (Z)men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith.

9But they will not make further progress; for their (AA)folly will be obvious to all, just (AB)as Jannes's and Jambres's folly was also.

10Now you (AC)followed my teaching, conduct, purpose, faith, patience, (AD)love, perseverance,

11(AE)persecutions, and (AF)sufferings, such as happened to me at (AG)Antioch, at (AH)Iconium and at (AI)Lystra; what (AJ)persecutions I endured, and out of them all (AK)the Lord rescued me!

12Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus (AL)will be persecuted.

13But evil men and impostors (AM)will proceed from bad to worse, (AN)deceiving and being deceived.







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Friday, February 13, 2009

which god do u worship and follow?

4 and 5 generations... have beeen... deceived... no big deal...

only 50% of roman catholics.. go 2 heven.. peratory... some where.. HuH... ha ha ah












white and nerdy.. lies of the roman catholic church religion








it is amazing to discover all the different lies and half truth's that are taught in the religion classes i attended at boysville of michigan ..thomas more high school..

like most currupt religious orginazation's.. all these HALF-BREED inventions of false scripture interperation..

the foundational LIE taught in the roman catholic church.. is that "U receive the HOLY Spirit... when U are baptise as a child"

not only does it not happen.. this false hood prevents the individual from.. seeking the truth..

Pope John Paul II - Burning in Hell

Please notice the picture above with an upside-down cross. In his article, The Kingdom of Satan, Professor J. S. Malan says this about the inverted cross:

"This cross is not broken, but turned upside down. It indicates the rejection of Jesus Christ and contempt for the gospel of salvation. Inverted symbols are typical of the opposite values pursued by Satanists. People who are sometimes sacrificed to Satan on Black Sabbath are crucified upside down in accordance with this tradition. "

“...even now are there many antichrists…” -I John 2:18.



It is easy to find Satanic websites and occult stores where you can purchase all types of items with inverted crosses. The "Upside Down Cross” symbolizes mockery and rejection of Jesus. Necklaces are worn by many Satanists. It can often be seen on Rock singers and their album covers."


“...and no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light” -2 Corinthians 11:14.

The "Bent Cross" is a grotesque emaciated depiction of Jesus Christ, the only Son of God who died to provide salvation for those who believe in Him. This scepter is used by the Popes on many occasions. Its occult ramifications and connections cannot be disregarded.

The Catholic religion often calls herself the "Mother Church." She's NOT the mother of Christ's church! By calling herself "mother" she is telling on herself. She is THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH (Rev. 17:5)! Notice the Catholic religion calls herself a woman. The Bible calls Catholicism a whore, and what a GREAT WHORE she is—committing spiritual fornication with the kings and rulers of the earth (nearly every king throughout history has had some type of political, economic or religious ties with the Vatican). Read about how Nazi Germany and the Vatican worked together to murder millions of innocent Jews in the holocaust! Read The Vatican's Holocaust. She's DRUNKEN with the blood of the saints. Study the Inquisitions—the torture and killing of tens-of-millions of people. Oh, even the antichrist is naked in light of God's word.

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists (Popes and priests); whereby we know that it is the last time" -1st John 2:18

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Gee what is a good roman catholic?? Blooper




Roman Catholic Priests sexually abuse altar boys





[these are very great and horrific and grievous attacks perpetrated against children.

The Bible tells us that forbidding to marry is a doctrine of THE DEVIL.

The Roman Catholic religion is the MOTHER of harlots and abominations of the earth.

She births them into existence and then cares for them. I am so sorry for the children. So sorry--and many don't want to hear nothing about the Lord ever again because Satanists got a hold of them masquerading like they are Christians--perpetrating a fraud.

These things make me VERY sorry. I talk to Jesus about it. ]

The Unkindest Cut: the Altar Boy Connection

Dave Eberhart, NewsMax
Friday, May 3, 2002
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/3/74850.shtml

The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, a national advocacy group for victims of sexual abuse by clergy, is getting 10 times as many calls and e-mails as usual.

Many of those connections are from former altar boys, known in the Church as "knights of the altar."


Opp...sss i did it

Transubstantiation and the Real Presence/ or lies.N. half truth









Transubstantiation and the Real Presence

Transubstantiation is the teaching that during the Mass at the consecration in the Lord's Supper (Communion), the elements of the Eucharist, bread and wine, are transformed into the actual body and blood of Jesus and that they are no longer bread and wine, but only retain their appearance of bread and wine.

The "Real Presence" is the term referring to Christ's actual presence in the elements of the bread and the wine that have been transubstantiated.

Paragraph 1376 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) states,

The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation. (CCC, 1376)


Because they are the presence of Christ himself, Catholics worship and adore the elements.

The Mass contains a series of rituals leading up to the Lord's Supper which also contains a reenactment of the sacrifice of Christ.

Furthermore, transubstantiation states that the substance of the elements are miraculously changed, even though their appearance is not.

In other words, the bread and wine will appear as bread and wine under close scientific examination, but the true substance is mystically the Body and Blood of Christ.

Synonymous with transubstantiation is the doctrine of the Real Presence.

Where transubstantiation is the process of the change, the real presence is the result of that change. In other words, the doctrine of the real presence states that the bread and wine contain the actual presence of Christ in bodily form as a result of the process of transubstantiation.




Roman Catholicism states that the incarnation of Christ itself where Jesus was a man, but contained an invisible divine nature, is analogous to the the doctrine of the real presence.

Some of the verses used to substantiate this teaching are the following:

Matt. 26:28, "for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins."

John 6:52-53, "The Jews therefore began to argue with one another, saying, How can this man give us His flesh to eat? 53 Jesus therefore said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves.'"

1 Cor. 11:27, " Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord."

Can we conclude from the above verses that the Communion Supper actually involves the change of the elements into the mystical Body and Blood of Christ? Let's take a look. First - there is no indication that the words were meant to be literal

No where in scripture do we find this teaching. We see scriptures refer to the elements as the body and blood, but we also see Jesus clearly stating that the words He was speaking were spiritual words:

It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life,"

(John 6:63). He did not say they were literal words; that is, He did not say that they were His actual body and blood.

But, a Catholic might object and say that Jesus clearly said, "This is My blood..." and "This is my body..." This is true, but Jesus frequently spoke in spiritual terms: "I am the bread of life," (John 6:48); "I am the resurrection and the life," (John 11:25); "I am the true vine," (John 15:1), etc.

Jesus often spoke in figurative terms and in the context of Jesus telling His disciples that they must eat His body and blood,

He clearly says He was speaking in spiritual terms, "...the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life," (John 6:63).

After Jesus said, "This is my blood," (Matt. 26:28), He said, "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Fathers kingdom, (Matt. 26:29).

Why would Jesus speak figuratively of His blood as "the fruit of the vine" if it was His literal blood?

We can clearly see that Jesus was speaking figuratively.




Second - there is no indication the disciples thought the elements changed

There is no indication in the biblical accounts of the Last Supper that the disciples thought that the bread and wine changed into the actual body and blood of Christ. There simply isn't any indication of this. Should we say that the disciples who were sitting right there with Jesus, actually thought that what Jesus was holding in his hands was his own body and blood? That would be ridiculous.

Third - there is no indication the disciples worshipped the elements

We see no indication at all that the disciples worshipped the elements. The adoration of the Eucharist is practiced during the Mass. Catholicism says, "Moreover, the Catholic Church has held firm to this belief in the presence of Christ's Body and Blood in the Eucharist not only in her teaching but in her life as well, since she has at all times paid this great Sacrament the worship known as "latria," which may be given to God alone."1 Where is the worship given the sacrament by the disciples anywhere in the New Testament? It is not there.

Fourth - the supper was instituted before Jesus' crucifixion
The Mass is supposed to be a re-sacrifice of Christ. Therefore, the body and blood represented in the Mass become the broken body and shed blood of Christ. In other words, they represent the crucifixion ordeal. But how can this be since Jesus instituted the Supper before He was crucified? Are we to conclude that at the Last Supper, when they were all at the table, that when Jesus broke the bread it became His actual sacrificial body -- even though the sacrifice had not yet happened? Likewise are we to conclude that when Jesus gave the wine that it became His actual sacrificial blood -- even though the sacrifice had not yet happened? That would make no sense at all.

Fifth -the Roman Catholic view is a violation of Levitical law
The Roman Catholic interpretation of the Eucharist requires the participant to eat human flesh and drink human blood. Remember, Roman Catholicism teaches that the bread and the wine become the actual body and blood of Christ. Essentially, this amounts to cannibalism. What does the Scripture say concerning this?

"For as for the life of all flesh, its blood is identified with its life. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, You are not to eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood; whoever eats it shall be cut off," (Lev. 17:14).
Notice that the scripture says that you are not to eat the blood of any flesh. It would certainly appear that the Roman Catholic view is in contradiction to the Old Testament scripture since it advocates the eating of the blood of Christ.

Sixth - It is a violation of the incarnation
The biblical doctrine of the incarnation states that the Word which was God and was with God (John 1:1), became flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14). This "became flesh" involves what is known as the hypostatic Union. This is the teaching that in the one person of Christ are two natures: divine and human. That is, Jesus is both God and man at the same time and He will forever be God and man.

Furthermore, by definition, for Jesus to be human He must be located in one place. This is the nature of being human. A human male does not have the ability to be omnipresent. He can only be in one place at one time. To say that Jesus in His physical form is in more than one place at a time, is to deny the incarnation. That is, it denies that Jesus is completely and totally a man -- since a man can only be it one place at one time. Therefore, to say that the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ is to violate the doctrine of the incarnation by stating that Christ is physically present all over the planet as the mass is celebrated. This is a serious problem and a serious denial of the true and absolute incarnation of the Word of God as a man.

But, did not Jesus say in Matt. 28:18-20 that He would be with the disciples always, even to the ends of the earth? Is this not a declaration that Jesus will be physically present everywhere? No, this is not what is stated.

The answer is found in the teaching of the communicatio idiomatum. This is the teaching that the attributes of both the divine and human nature are ascribed to the single person of Christ. It does not mean, however, that anything particular to the divine nature was communicated to the human nature. Likewise, it does not mean that anything particular to the human nature was communicated to the divine nature. It means that the attributes of the divine nature are claimed by the person of Christ. Therefore, Jesus is omnipresent, not in His human nature, but in His divine nature.

To make this more clear, let's look at some verses that illustrate the communicatio idiomatum.

John 17:5, "And now, glorify Thou Me together with Thyself, Father, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was."
John 3:13,"And no one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven, even the Son of Man."
Please notice that in these two verses, Jesus lays claim to the glory that He had with the Father before the foundation of the world. He also claims to have descended from heaven. But how could these be true since He is a man? The answer is because the attributes of the divine nature are claimed by the person of Christ. Therefore the person of Christ could claim to have glory with the Father and could claim to descend from heaven. But we know that the man Jesus, in the flesh, did not exist until His conception. Furthermore, this means that the two natures of Christ are distinct, yet they are in Union in the one person of Christ (the hypostatic union). It further means that the attributes of the divine and the attributes of the human are not transferred to one another -- the divine does not become localized and the human does not become infinite. If this were the case, then the nature of the divine and the nature of the human will be violated. Therefore, we can see that for Jesus to be a man, He must retain the attributes of humanity. This means that He must be localized and it means He cannot be physically omnipresent. If He were, by definition He would not be a man. But the Roman Catholic position is that the bread and wine become the actual body and blood of Christ and this violates the doctrine of the incarnation. Therefore, transubstantiation cannot be the correct teaching of Scripture.

Seventh - the Lord's Supper is not a sacrifice of Christ
The Bible tells us:

...the Bible says

...the Bible says

"My people perish for lack of knowledge"

the knowledge being the wiles of the devil who roams around seeking who he may
devour.

We..including many Christians are unknowingly being harassed by the
evil or unclean spirits and they have to be cast out and renounced.

The
Bible says that for those who don't forgive...there are "tormenters" who are
released to really harrass the person because unforgiveness gives an open
door to the devil and opens the door to satanic agents.

Ask JESUS to help
you forgive the ones who you have unforgiveness and HE will help you and
release you from the Tormeters who are assailing your mind.

I had many
issues of unforgiveness and I had to cry out to Jesus and HE helped me and
gave me peace. The Bible also says that if you do not forgive your brother
then your Father in Heaven will not forgive you. Fantasy is a spirit that
attacks your mind and is a spirit of insanty.

It must be cast out and
rebuked.

When you meditate, Meditate on scripture and fill your mind with
the Word of God and That will transform your mind.

Read it out loud so it
goes into your spirit and may GOD bless you and guide you and lead you into
all truth.

YAHWAH...my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge

Amos 3 TNIV



7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing
without revealing his plan
to his servants the prophets.





Hosea 4 TNIV


for your people are like those
who bring charges against a priest.

5 You stumble day and night,
and the prophets stumble with you.
So I will destroy your mother—

6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.
"Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also reject you as my priests;
because you have ignored the law of your God,
I also will ignore your children.

7 The more the priests increased,
the more they sinned against me;
they exchanged their glorious God [b] for something disgraceful.

8 They feed on the sins of my people
and relish their wickedness.

9 And it will be: Like people, like priests.
I will punish both of them for their ways
and repay them for their deeds.

10 "They will eat but not have enough;
they will engage in prostitution but not increase,
because they have deserted the LORD
to give themselves 11 to prostitution;
old wine and new wine
take away their understanding.

12 My people consult a wooden idol of a woman

Why R U praying to a familar spirit ? Called MARY?... R U stupid??

2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me.

4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God,

punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.


Geee why is the roman catholic church..."FAILING" . I JUST CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT //

..dUh??





The Third Commandment: What does it mean?

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Many take the third commandment to mean that we should not use the Heavenly Father's name alongside a swear word or profanity. I could see where it certainly might mean this. Others say that taking His name on our lips while living a life of sin is another way of taking His name in vain. I agree with this also.

However, I have found that the third commandment means much more than this. Replacing the Heavenly Father's name with a title of our own choosing such as "the LORD", "GOD", "Adonai", or "Ha Shem" is another way of taking His name in vain. Let's look at the third commandment as written in the King James Bible:

Deuteronomy 5:11 "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold [him] guiltless that taketh his name in vain."

If we examine this verse in the Hebrew text that the King James Bible was translated from, we would not find "The LORD" or any word that carries such a meaning. What is actually there is the Heavenly Father's true name, "Yahweh". I believe it is important to consider whether or not this tradition is something the Heavenly Father would desire us to follow.

Let's take a moment and look at the Webster's dictionary definition of the word "vain":

vain 1. Having no real substance, value, or importance; empty; void; worthless; unsatisfying. ``Thy vain excuse.'' ... 2. Destitute of forge or efficacy; effecting no purpose; fruitless; ineffectual; as, vain toil; a vain attempt. ...

Considering the meaning of the word 'vain', what greater way to bring Yahweh's name to emptiness, worthlessness, and having no real substance, value or purpose than to remove His name altogether from scripture and substitute it with a title of our own choosing?

Those who have chosen to practice this are doing just that. This practice is so widespread and so complete that few people even know the Heavenly Father has a personal name. Yahweh chose to place His name in scripture nearly 7,000 times. And each one of those 7,000 times it is replaced with a title (such as "The LORD") in 99% of all translations. In fact, in most translations the third commandment (as written) is a transgression of itself! Why? Because the third commandment forbids bringing His name to nothing, yet most translations do just that.

To further demonstrate this point, let's look at the Hebrew word that is translated "vain" in this verse.

Deuteronomy 5:11 (KJV) Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain <7723>: for Yahweh will not hold [him] guiltless that taketh his name in vain <7723>.

The number after the word "vain" in this passage refers to Strong's word #7723 in the Hebrew Lexicon. This same Hebrew word (#7723 'Shav') can also be found in another commandment just a few verses later. But in this instance, it is translated differently:
Deuteronomy 5:20 (KJV) Neither shalt thou bear false <7723> witness against thy neighbour.

Here we have the same Hebrew word <7723> translated "false." Might this shed light on the third commandment as well? We know that to say that the name of the Heavenly Father is "The LORD" is actually a false statement. Most translations are full of false statements. For instance, the King James Version reads:
Isaiah 42:8 - I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

The above is not a true statement. His name is not "the LORD". His name is Yahweh. "The LORD" is not a translation of the original, it is a substitution of the original. The translators did not translate, they purposely substituted the true name of the Heavenly Father for something else so that they could follow their tradition. It should instead read:

Isaiah 42:8 (RNKJV) I am Yahweh: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

So if we want to keep the ten commandments, we should never replace Yahweh's name with a false name or title of our own choosing. Doing so would be breaking the third commandment. This is not the only way to break the third commandment, but we can see that it is certainly one way of doing so. We are not supposed to add or take away from the scriptures. But in doing this, man has chosen to both add and take away.
Yahweh considered it important enough to include something about His name in the Ten Commandments. He considered it important enough to include a warning that we would not be held "guiltless" if we choose to break it. Therefore, in spite of what others may think, let's keep His commandments by restoring what Yahweh placed there originally. Let's set aside vain tradition and walk in the original truth of Yahweh... just as He inspired it.

Monday, February 9, 2009

boysville of michigan " training in masterbation"


Ignorance- It's like masturbation, it may make you feel good but it does not produce. ... But procrastination is also like masterbation, it feels great at first ..... "i cut my own hair, nobodies clippin the boss/ I'm a hungry emcee ... Crazy lyrics... but most underground rappers have better lyrics ...







Loyal Community, Part B
Revelation 2:12-19

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Alvin Glombowski.. told me recently that .. masterbation.. may have been taken off the "list of mortal sins"

Ya it is a sin in the Roman Catholic religion...but not in the BIBLE...it is another invented .. requirement,,.. of purity..

WHY U ask... because it "feels good" !! and we can't have any of that!! their are a few "bible verses that is used to justify this false belief system.."

At boysville of michigan when i attended Thomas More High School..

the best way they "thunked" that if you said the "ROSARY" A MILLION TIMES A DAY..

surely that would have been the solution... BUT NAAAaa that didn't work...

yes there were 129 boys going thru puberty.. and HORNEY... Brother's of Holy Cross..

and no one could figure it out...Geee ... lets ALL GO TO CONFESSION!!!

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL....


but I hate him because he never prophesies anything good about me, but always bad. He is Micaiah son of Imlah."

4 But Jehoshaphat also said to the king of Israel, "First seek the counsel of the LORD."
5 So the king of Israel brought together the prophets—four hundred men—and asked them, "Shall we go to war against Ramoth Gilead, or shall I refrain?"
"Go," they answered, "for God will give it into the king's hand."

6 But Jehoshaphat asked, "Is there not a prophet of the LORD here whom we can inquire of?"

7 The king of Israel answered Jehoshaphat, "There is still one man through whom we can inquire of the LORD, but I hate him because he never prophesies anything good about me, but always bad. He is Micaiah son of Imlah."
"The king should not say that," Jehoshaphat replied.

8 So the king of Israel called one of his officials and said, "Bring Micaiah son of Imlah at once."


11 All the other prophets were prophesying the same thing. "Attack Ramoth Gilead and be victorious," they said, "for the LORD will give it into the king's hand."

12 The messenger who had gone to summon Micaiah said to him, "Look, as one man the other prophets are predicting success for the king. Let your word agree with theirs, and speak favorably."



19 And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab king of Israel into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'
"One suggested this, and another that. 20 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
" 'By what means?' the LORD asked.

21 " 'I will go and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.
" 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

22 "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

lust is what again? don't ask a Holy Cross brother...DuH???

8 Hilkiah the high priest said to Shaphan the secretary,

"I have found the Book of the Law in the temple of the LORD."

He gave it to Shaphan, who read it. 9 Then Shaphan the secretary went to the king and reported to him: "Your officials have paid out the money that was in the temple of the LORD and have entrusted it to the workers and supervisors at the temple." 10 Then Shaphan the secretary informed the king, "Hilkiah the priest has given me a book." And Shaphan read from it in the presence of the king.

11 When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law, he tore his robes.

12 He gave these orders to Hilkiah the priest, Ahikam son of Shaphan, Acbor son of Micaiah, Shaphan the secretary and Asaiah the king's attendant:

13 "Go and inquire of the LORD for me and for the people and for all Judah about what is written in this book that has been found.

Great is the LORD's anger that burns against us because our fathers have not obeyed the words of this book; they have not acted in accordance with all that is written there concerning us."



ya once i lied and told alvin (2 see what he would do and say).. that i got initimate with a woman.. and he said nothing.. until .. he got mad at me...for something else... and then he was ... accusing me of LUST!!

but like most Holy Cross brothers... he was wrong and .. couldn't figure it out..

He failed .. in the "Our Father" prayer..

"lead us not into a time of temtation.. and deliver me from the "evil one"


13 And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.[a]'

6....Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.


Leviticus 18

Unlawful Sexual Relations

1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'I am the LORD your God. 3 You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices. 4 You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the LORD your God. 5 Keep my decrees and laws, for the man who obeys them will live by them. I am the LORD.
6 " 'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD.

7 " 'Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.

8 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would dishonor your father.

9 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

10 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter; that would dishonor you.

11 " 'Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father's wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

12 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your father's sister; she is your father's close relative.

13 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your mother's sister, because she is your mother's close relative.

14 " 'Do not dishonor your father's brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

15 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife; do not have relations with her.

16 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your brother's wife; that would dishonor your brother.

17 " 'Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18 " 'Do not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.

19 " 'Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

20 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor's wife and defile yourself with her.

21 " 'Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed [a] to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.

22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

23 " 'Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

24 " 'Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the aliens living among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

29 " 'Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people. 30 Keep my requirements and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you came and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the LORD your God.'